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7 Comments:
At Friday, June 16, 2006 4:00:00 PM,
Marc with a C said…
Whoa, I never had you pegged for a creationist. AH well, I suppose that's what I get when you only update your journal a few times a year ya know ;)
At Monday, June 19, 2006 5:16:00 PM,
Sebosmile said…
Hmm, I've only attended church MY ENTIRE LIFE, I switched from the Episcopal :gag: church back to a more conservative Anglican church that's actually preaches, you know, THE BIBLE instead of a wacked out liberal agenda that treats homosexuality as being normal and even aproved by God... And the fact that I don't think humans used to be monkeys comes as a surprise to you?
GOd, I know we were younger then, but maybe we were much better off not knowing how wrong we were for each other when we were dating!
Geez.
Please, Marc. Joke fighting about politics when we were younger may have had it's fun moments, but I think we outgrew that game years ago.
As such, if I think you're posting something just to start something, I'm gonna ignore it, k? Thanks!
At Monday, June 19, 2006 10:43:00 PM,
Marc with a C said…
Oh c'mon Shannon, you know I just like to rag on you for being wrong most of the time ;) Seriously though, I had no idea you were a creationist. Really. I wasn't trying to start shit, just expressing my surprise is all. No need to get defensive.
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:50:00 PM,
Sebosmile said…
Still don't get what's so surprising about that... Since A) you know I believe in God and B) the Christian version of God and evolution don't exactly work out so well together...
And if I ever feel like being wrong, I'll send you a memo so you can enjoy it... But don't hold your breath!
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006 6:49:00 PM,
Anonymous said…
I believe there is a middle and optional way between pure Evolution and pure Creationism. I think its called the "Intervention Theory". It says,as I recall, that it is not necessary to take the creation account literally - that God could have "Intervened" in the evolutionary process and used the body of an animal to create man. Not a literal dust of the earth but a figurative one. Catholics, I think, are allowed to believe this theory. The only restriction being one cannot (and be catholic) believe that a man was born of an animal, which doesn't make sense anyway.
I am glad you are back, Sebo....
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:00:00 PM,
Maggie said…
I can't believe I agree with Marc (hell hath frozen over! ;) but I have to say that I really don't think Christianity is incompatible with evolution per se, although the way in which evolution is presented often DOES result in such incompatiblity.
There are two seperate creation stories in the book of Genesis, each with its own different timeline. Clearly you can't read them both literally, as they contradict each other on several important points.
I think Genesis is meant less as a scientific document and more as a document that is supposed to illustrate truths: God made the world. God made man. We are made in the image and likeness of God. We fell out of our original grace and into sin. We have a tendency toward sin. Etc, etc.
The Bible is full of allegory, quite a bit of poetry, and a great deal of straight-forward historical information and factual chronology. Some literal parts - such as the virgin birth, the physical resurrection of Christ, etc - are absolutely intrinsic to the Christian religion. One can't really be Christian and deny their literal reality. On the other hand, for instance, quite a number of orthodox Christians consider the story of Jonah's time in the belly of the whale to be an allegory that, again, is in the deepest sense of the word "true" because it conveys certain truths about God, Israel, and humanity.
I'm pretty sure evolution is taught in most Catholic schools, although then again it is presented in a theistic context in which Darwin is presented as bolstering the cause of the existence of God (only an intelligent creator could have controlled a process as complex as evolution to the point that it produced man). Not like in the public schools, where often evolution is taught as secular liberalism's victorious triumph over all those stupid people who believe in God.
I believe the Catholic schools also present it as a merely a THEORY, one with a number of gaping holes in it. There's nothing wrong with pointing out that evolution is unproven, probably never will be proven, and that there are serious problems with the theory that have yet to be ironed out. I don't understand why the secularists get so worked up about people pointing out that Darwinian science isn't perfect. Could it be - gasp - that they don't like having their little dogmas challenged? ;)
The Catholic schools are also supposed to make clear that one is allowed to be a straight-up, literalist, six-day creationist, and that this doesn't make one an idiot. Clearly not an option countenanced by the MSM.
In case Marc brings it up, I will also just say that I don't think evolution says that humans used to be monkeys. I think the idea is that humans and primates shared a common ancestor which was neither recognizably human nor ape, and that some of this species evolved into man and some evolved into monkeys. I think that's what Darwin said, but I could be wrong, I haven't had any science classes in four years. Bleh! And am I and the state of Ohio ever glad! ::: Burns down lab with chemical agent... Accidentally??? :::
At Thursday, June 22, 2006 5:38:00 PM,
Marc with a C said…
Absolutely right, Maggie, although I would futher clarify that men evolved from great apes, and not monkeys. Or rather, humans ARE apes, but that if you go far enough back you will find a "missing link," a common archetypical ancestor of all great apes from which humans as well as gorillas, chimpanzees and the like have evolved. Those are completely different creatures from monkeys and for future reference to anyone else who might read this page: NEVER make the mistake of claiming that men evolved from monkeys. That's the best way to lose the arguement before it even starts ;)
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